Wed Jun 06, 2012 | Post #1 | l.gopal
Join date: Jan 2012 | building construction fe 415 sufficent | |
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Thu Jun 07, 2012 | Post #2 | S L Gupta (Civil Engg)
Join date: Mar 2008 | Dear george
Use Fe 500, factor of safty will be more and it is good as safety against earthquake will increase and some bottleneck at site during construction also covered.
Both are High yield strength steel cold twisted deformed bar as per IS 1786 but the main difference is that Yield Stress or 0.2% proof stress of fe 415 is 415 N/Sqmm and that of fe 500 is 500 N/sqmm. Fe415 is better for housing construction.
Rest of difference is given below:
1. Chemical composition:
Constituent/ Fe415 / Fe500
Carbon / 0.30 / 0.30 Sulphur / 0.06 / 0.055 Phosphorus/ 0.06 / 0.055 Sulphur & Phosphorus / 0.11 / 0.105
2. Elongation per cent,Min,on gauge length 5.65 sqrt( A) where A is the cross sectional area of the test piece:
Fe415 :14.5 Fe500 :12.0
3.Tensile Strength,Min:
Fe415 : 10% more than the actual 0.2% proof stress but not less than 485N/mm .sq Fe500 : 8% more than the actual 0.2% proof stress but not less than 545N/mm.sq
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Thu Jun 07, 2012 | Post #3 | Ar. Manoj Ralen
Join date: Feb 2008 | Dear George, As Gupta ji has recommended. FE 500 has better specifications compared to FE 415. As your engineer has designed the building for FE 415, If you put FE 500, you would be putting be putting better specification in your building. As I understand that FE 415 is not easily available there and I know FE 500 is slightly expensive compared to FE415, so if cost is a concern then you can ask your structure engineer to redesign the building for FE 500 and if the design permits then he would reduce the quantity of steel required which would offset the additional cost for FE 500. So discuss this with your structure engineer or just go ahead with FE 500.
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Thu Jun 07, 2012 | Post #4 | George Kattapuram
Join date: Apr 2011 | Thanks all for the timely advise. This was really useful.
regards George | |
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Fri Aug 03, 2012 | Post #5 | Kinley Tshering
Join date: Aug 2012 | Post subject: Using of higher grade steel over already designe...
Dear all, I would like to have a solution for the following: I am constructing a residential house of five storey designed for fe 415 and reached second floor using fe 415 steel. Now in the market we are not able to find the above steel grade. The manufacturer has upgraded to fe500. I am wondering, whether it is ok to use fe 500 steel without checking the steel requirement. The steel dealers are offering the same rate for the higher grade. I am confused, as every body says fe 500 has a an added advantage, but I am worried of mixing of two grade steel. Wondering of over reinforced, if same steel requirement is used using higher specification.Therefore, please advice Kinley | |
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Fri Aug 03, 2012 | Post #6 | P. Panchal
Join date: Apr 2011 | Hi Kinley, I think there is nothing to worry if u use fe 500.
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Mon Aug 06, 2012 | Post #7 | verne smooth
Join date: Jul 2012 | no worry.
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Fri Sep 12, 2014 | Post #8 | G.PITCHAIAH
Join date: Sep 2014 | Post subject: merits of fe 415 steel
DEAR GEORGE, 1. Use only fe 415 steel as per design.If in market fe415 is not available you must test the FE 500 STEEL in lab that % of elongation required is 14.5. 2.NOT getting in the market is rerolling fe500 is simpler to 415.i.e duplicating branded is fashion today | |
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Sat Aug 22, 2015 | Post #9 | bala
Join date: Jul 2014 | Dear All,
We bought the steel Fe 500 and kept in open place. And because of some reason, we hold the work around 2-3 months.
Now the steel is looking in brown color because of exposes to air and rain.
Now construction work started again . Shall we use the same steel for the construction work ?
please advice
thanks
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Sat Aug 22, 2015 | Post #10 | JAI PRAKASH
Join date: May 2014 | Yes you can.
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Mon Aug 24, 2015 | Post #11 | S L Gupta (Civil Engg)
Join date: Mar 2008 | Dear Bala Yes you can use the above said steel. For brown color you may not worry as it is not rust.For satisfaction employ one mazdoor with gunny bags and kerosine oil and rub the steel bars before use in advance. Some of the brown color will be automatically rub with hands by blacksmith while working on steel bar. USE CEMENT MIXED WITH WATER SPRINKLED ON STEEL BARS BEFORE STARTING THE LAYING OF CEMENT CONCRETE. READ AT GHAREXPERT construction section of sub section of concrete which will help you in laying concrete.
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Sat Aug 29, 2015 | Post #12 | bala
Join date: Jul 2014 | Dear sir,
Thanks for your response
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Tue Sep 01, 2015 | Post #13 | JAI PRAKASH
Join date: May 2014 | :)
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Sat Oct 31, 2015 | Post #14 | moeen akhter
Join date: Jun 2015 | Dear all,
please tell me what is the difference between deformed and mild steel bars | |
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Sun Nov 01, 2015 | Post #15 | JAI PRAKASH
Join date: May 2014 | One is pure from the furnace and other is made of scrap iron.
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Mon May 21, 2018 | Post #16 | VivekC
Join date: May 2018 | Follow the plans to the letter, if the plans are made with FE415 as the bars, then proceed with Fe415. While FE500 is bit much for residential structures, you can still use it. Expect extra efforts if the bars need to be bent.
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